Discussion:
[BL] Arachne
Ron Clarke
2016-02-06 21:57:07 UTC
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Hi Sindi,
I see there is a 2010 version compiled for linux with SVGA display.
That was a proof of concept only.
It was never fully functional, there was no one able to make the full conversion to Linux.
And some javascript support, but not SSL.
None of the Arachne versions have javascript support, or SSL.
However, there are some plug-ins that allow to by-pass some of the javascript, and even some SSL, to access videos, other links
etc..
That makes Arachne more useful than you might otherwise think.
I use it all the time.
The Wikipedia article is out of date.
Yes, it is out of date.


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sindi keesan
2016-02-06 21:03:13 UTC
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Post by Ron Clarke
Hi Sindi,
I see there is a 2010 version compiled for linux with SVGA display.
That was a proof of concept only.
It was never fully functional, there was no one able to make the full conversion to Linux.
What part of it does function?
Post by Ron Clarke
And some javascript support, but not SSL.
None of the Arachne versions have javascript support, or SSL.
However, there are some plug-ins that allow to by-pass some of the
javascript, and even some SSL, to access videos, other links etc..
Does it include a video player? Is there one for DOS?
Post by Ron Clarke
That makes Arachne more useful than you might otherwise think.
I use it all the time.
The Wikipedia article is out of date.
Yes, it is out of date.
Are you interested in updating it? You obviously know enough.
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Ron Clarke
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Ron Clarke
2016-02-07 01:26:56 UTC
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Hi Sindi,
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
That was a proof of concept only.
It was never fully functional, there was no one able to make the full
conversion
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
to Linux.
What part of it does function?
It can start running, but that is about all.
It may make one URL, briefly, but gets clogged up very quickly, then locks up.
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
None of the Arachne versions have javascript support, or SSL.
However, there are some plug-ins that allow to by-pass some of the
javascript, and even some SSL, to access videos, other links etc..
Does it include a video player?
Yes.
Post by sindi keesan
Is there one for DOS?
Yes, at least two working versions of mplayer for DOS.
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
The Wikipedia article is out of date.
Yes, it is out of date.
Are you interested in updating it?
No, I would not try.
Post by sindi keesan
You obviously know enough.
Not to edit Wikipedia.

I think Glenn McC was the last person to edit the Arachne entry, and I think
it was difficult even then.

Sindi,
If you want to run Arachne (and all her plug-ins) in DOS, I would be happy
to help.

If you want to run Arachne in Linux, you are on your own.

For a browser about as handy as Arachne, I suggest Links (for both DOS and
Linux). Links has SSL built in.

Both will run as text and as fully graphical, and both can be run almost
entirely from the keyboard, as well as with a mouse.

I have even managed to install a couple of Arachne's plug-ins into DOS
Links.

I very seldom use any other browser beyond those two, in both DOS and
Linux.

Regards,
Ron

Ron Clarke
AUSREG Consultancy http://www.ausreg.com
Tadpole Tunes http://www.tadpoletunes.com
Sna Keo Il http://www.tadpoletunes.com/sna_keo_il/
-- This mail was written by a user of the Arachne Browser -
http://www.glennmcc.org/

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sindi keesan
2016-02-07 00:50:43 UTC
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Post by Ron Clarke
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
It was never fully functional, there was no one able to make the full
conversion
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
to Linux.
What part of it does function?
It can start running, but that is about all.
It may make one URL, briefly, but gets clogged up very quickly, then locks up.
Memory management problem?
Post by Ron Clarke
Post by sindi keesan
Does it include a video player?
Yes.
Post by sindi keesan
Is there one for DOS?
Yes, at least two working versions of mplayer for DOS.
A way to download youtube videos to feed mplayer? In linux I have used
movgrab on a 233MHz laptop and played the result at 240p. Uses much less
cpu and ram than flashplayer in a browser.
Post by Ron Clarke
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
The Wikipedia article is out of date.
Yes, it is out of date.
Are you interested in updating it?
No, I would not try.
Post by sindi keesan
You obviously know enough.
Not to edit Wikipedia.
To correct a few wrong dates, anyway.
Post by Ron Clarke
I think Glenn McC was the last person to edit the Arachne entry, and I think
it was difficult even then.
Sindi,
If you want to run Arachne (and all her plug-ins) in DOS, I would be happy
to help.
Some day. I have used it before.
Post by Ron Clarke
If you want to run Arachne in Linux, you are on your own.
For a browser about as handy as Arachne, I suggest Links (for both DOS and
Linux). Links has SSL built in.
Both will run as text and as fully graphical, and both can be run almost
entirely from the keyboard, as well as with a mouse.
I have even managed to install a couple of Arachne's plug-ins into DOS
Links.
I very seldom use any other browser beyond those two, in both DOS and
Linux.
I usually use lynx in linux, with viewers mplayer for mp3s, fbi
(framebuffer image viewer), pdftotext, antiword (which is probably
outdated). My downloader is set to display tables in links or w3m when
needed. Javascript often makes websites unusable.

Why do you prefer DOS to basiclinux?
Post by Ron Clarke
Regards,
Ron
Ron Clarke
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Ron Clarke
2016-02-07 02:26:59 UTC
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Hi Sindi,
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
It was never fully functional, there was no one able to make the full
conversion
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
to Linux.
What part of it does function?
It can start running, but that is about all.
It may make one URL, briefly, but gets clogged up very quickly, then locks up.
Memory management problem?
Among other things.
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
Post by sindi keesan
Does it include a video player?
Yes.
Post by sindi keesan
Is there one for DOS?
Yes, at least two working versions of mplayer for DOS.
A way to download youtube videos to feed mplayer?
An Arachne plug-in.
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
The Wikipedia article is out of date.
Yes, it is out of date.
Are you interested in updating it?
No, I would not try.
Post by sindi keesan
You obviously know enough.
Not to edit Wikipedia.
To correct a few wrong dates, anyway.
Not me.
Post by sindi keesan
Post by Ron Clarke
Sindi,
If you want to run Arachne (and all her plug-ins) in DOS, I would be happy
to help.
Some day. I have used it before.
I think you will find it more functional than it was.
Post by sindi keesan
I usually use lynx in linux, with viewers mplayer for mp3s, fbi
(framebuffer image viewer), pdftotext, antiword (which is probably
outdated). My downloader is set to display tables in links or w3m when
needed. Javascript often makes websites unusable.
Why do you prefer DOS to basiclinux?
I no longer use basiclinux much.

I use mostly DOS, and Slackware 14-current.
DOS is a lot easier to make changes and additions.
I code in DOS. I make music in DOS.
DOS does not require huge amounts of RAM, or expensive extras, to function.
All my email goes through Arachne ONLY !

Regards,
Ron


Ron Clarke
AUSREG Consultancy http://www.ausreg.com
Tadpole Tunes http://www.tadpoletunes.com
Sna Keo Il http://www.tadpoletunes.com/sna_keo_il/
-- This mail was written by a user of the Arachne Browser - http://www.glennmcc.org/

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